tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post3295725626757691581..comments2023-09-11T07:28:53.751-06:00Comments on KDrama Fighting! : Expectation and Fulfillment in DramalandAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11410627517583515240noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-58364289290969935932014-09-01T23:32:01.391-06:002014-09-01T23:32:01.391-06:00I am so guilty of this. I recently made a list of ...I am so guilty of this. I recently made a list of all the dramas I've watched and was a little bit ashamed to see how many I never finished! Some I got completely bored with, some I still mean to go back to "someday". It's hard to sustain interest after that rush of a new drama...it's addictive! It just makes me love the ones I do watch all the way through (and multiple times for some) that much more.Thoughtsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-15565452678024038432014-06-23T20:13:10.688-06:002014-06-23T20:13:10.688-06:00I'm the exact same way as you. I can usually m...I'm the exact same way as you. I can usually make it through 10-13 episodes before having to quit. (I don't think I've ever quit a drama any earlier then that, actually.) It's always the midway point where I start to really struggle. But I've learned that I have to stay away from any and all in-depth reviews or episode recaps, because the second I spoil even a moment of the story, I lose all interest in watching it.Toriohttp://www.youtube.com/user/bugly1?feature=mheenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-41523683238213494952014-06-23T20:07:37.308-06:002014-06-23T20:07:37.308-06:00I'm hoping the 'birth secret' is just ...I'm hoping the 'birth secret' is just a fake out meant to keep us from the truth. I know they did that already with the whole 'Is Tae Il gay?' thing (although I don't think that issue has actually been resolved yet), but I really, really hope I'm right. Like you, I really don't like the actor playing Assemblyman Yoo (I didn't like him at all in I Hear Your Voice, and so far, my opinion of him hasn't improved with this drama). The idea of him being Dae Gu's father is just...blegh. Do not want.Toriohttp://www.youtube.com/user/bugly1?feature=mheenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-54817008706692961862014-06-23T19:02:19.777-06:002014-06-23T19:02:19.777-06:00Yeah I'm totally the same as bergenia. This b...Yeah I'm totally the same as bergenia. This beginnings vs ending debate seems to stem from Plot vs Character preference as once I become compelled or interested in characters, I'm usually in for the long haul. That said, character assassinations usually occur in the last few episodes so it's led to some crushing disappointments.Dj Muenchenhttp://www.eastwestcommonality.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-58695537551637050392014-06-23T18:50:41.179-06:002014-06-23T18:50:41.179-06:00"I don't particularly like the actor who ..."I don't particularly like the actor who plays the assemblyman.." hah, sounds like somebody saw Nine: Times Time Travels ;)Dj Muenchenhttp://www.eastwestcommonality.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-39014363474678309392014-06-23T02:51:55.604-06:002014-06-23T02:51:55.604-06:00I have only heard about this by the hashtag some f...I have only heard about this by the hashtag some friends use on Twitter. WTFParis. So I can imagine it did plenty to earn that name. <br /><br />If you don't end your story, then you didn't finish your work. They should not pay such people a full salary, when they refuse to write the whole thing and demand that viewers do. It's <i>your</i> damn job!Orionhttp://www.orionsramblings.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-40962903288946707402014-06-22T19:01:16.982-06:002014-06-22T19:01:16.982-06:00I think if I hadn't been watching it as it air...I think if I hadn't been watching it as it aired, I might not have finished it. If I remember correctly, I really loved episode 15, and episodes 19 and most of 20...but yeah...there were so many plot holes and stuff that drove me crazy, that I just decided to enjoy the parts I loved - Kim Soo Hyun and Cheon Ji Hyun ^^dewaanifordramahttp://samsoondowntherabbithole.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-83334590693596409502014-06-22T19:00:04.176-06:002014-06-22T19:00:04.176-06:00And if it doesn't work, there are always plent...And if it doesn't work, there are always plenty more dramas to watch ^^dewaanifordramahttp://samsoondowntherabbithole.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-63390711226274392482014-06-22T18:46:15.738-06:002014-06-22T18:46:15.738-06:00To be honest, I'm having trouble finishing My ...To be honest, I'm having trouble finishing My Love from Another Star, as well. The female lead grew on me until I really liked her, but I'm not finding the central conflict all that compelling. Looking back, I can see how Lie to Me is filled with cliches, but I give it a pass because it was one of my very first dramas, and the kissing scenes are fabulous.Vivinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-41855903588692579872014-06-22T17:58:12.848-06:002014-06-22T17:58:12.848-06:00I guess my difficulty is I'm just not feeling ...I guess my difficulty is I'm just not feeling the chemistry between the leads. When I think there is chemistry, I am willing to overlook major narrative problems (Lie to Me for much of its run, for example), but I guess this particular pairing just isn't doing anything for me. It's too bad, because I was really looking forward to this drama based on my enjoyment of the lead actor in Dream High.bergenianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-41190812749906760202014-06-22T17:35:01.303-06:002014-06-22T17:35:01.303-06:00At some point in "My Love from Another Star&q...At some point in "My Love from Another Star" I just resigned myself to being satisfied and then just allowed myself to love the chemistry between the leads. There is most definitely more to love than to hate. I wrote a bunch of posts for the drama, but I still haven't finished my final review...dewaanifordramahttp://samsoondowntherabbithole.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-18985561396539962252014-06-22T16:39:04.519-06:002014-06-22T16:39:04.519-06:00Examples of shows I found slow or annoying at firs...Examples of shows I found slow or annoying at first, but later loved: Shut Up Flower Boy Band, Scent of a Woman, I Hear Your Voice. I am currently completing a Gentleman's Dignity, which I stopped watching in episode 3 last year, but now am really liking it. I tried really hard with My Love From Another Star, but gave up in episode 6 - I just couldn't bring myself to care about any of the characters. Is it worth another try?bergenianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-89806107690167590652014-06-22T15:40:01.053-06:002014-06-22T15:40:01.053-06:00I also tend to give dramas at least two episodes, ...I also tend to give dramas at least two episodes, and sometimes more. Some of the dramas that are 20 or 24 episoders often take about four or more episodes to get going. I know that Gaksital didn't really hit it's stride until about episode 6, and Cruel City after episode 4.dewaanifordramahttp://samsoondowntherabbithole.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-62645533628458100192014-06-22T15:35:35.228-06:002014-06-22T15:35:35.228-06:00Exactly! Oh money greediness. Quality is so much b...Exactly! Oh money greediness. Quality is so much better than quantity.dewaanifordramahttp://samsoondowntherabbithole.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-3988425281587089562014-06-22T14:44:20.494-06:002014-06-22T14:44:20.494-06:00More scenes of Dae Gu pining. Yes please!More scenes of Dae Gu pining. Yes please!Toriohttp://www.youtube.com/user/bugly1?feature=mheenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-5462995637986066532014-06-22T14:43:03.591-06:002014-06-22T14:43:03.591-06:00I have a strict two-episode rule for almost all ne...I have a strict two-episode rule for almost all new dramas. I don't always love the first episode, but I can usually get into it within the first two hours. The one big exception was Nine: Nine Times Time Travel. I'm so glad that people told me to stick with it past the first four episodes because those episodes were way less compelling than the rest of the series.Vivinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-71088883419433193302014-06-22T14:41:06.343-06:002014-06-22T14:41:06.343-06:00The live shoot is definitely a factor in all of th...The live shoot is definitely a factor in all of this, especially when it comes to extensions. Most of the time, it's a question of "Can we get higher ratings with more episodes?" as opposed to "Can we get a better story with more episodes?"Vivinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-752832436776424272014-06-22T14:38:52.657-06:002014-06-22T14:38:52.657-06:00One of the clumsiest offenders in the "trying...One of the clumsiest offenders in the "trying to be edgy" category has got to be Nail Shop Paris. In the last episode, one of the characters actually talked about how awesome open endings are right before setting up their own "open" ending. It was clear from the start of the show that the writers were using edginess as an excuse for lazy, nonsensical writing.Vivinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-31355546419316146712014-06-22T14:35:15.588-06:002014-06-22T14:35:15.588-06:00I also prefer shows where the guy falls first. It ...I also prefer shows where the guy falls first. It gives the girl some sense of control over her life. With You Are All Surrounded, I have been pretty pleased with the romantic development overall. If they would give us just a few more scenes of Dae Gu pining, I wouldn't even care if Soo Sun had feelings for him at this point.Vivinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-57702073598532463152014-06-22T05:03:34.599-06:002014-06-22T05:03:34.599-06:00Wow, you just made me realize why I often see comm...Wow, you just made me realize why I often see comments from people on a drama saying "push through the first boring episodes, it's worth it." I almost never understand why they think the beginning is boring ... well, and I still don't ... but maybe they, like you, are beginning-strugglers. And I'm an ending-struggler by nature!Penthesilianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-56786719676940734462014-06-22T01:43:55.914-06:002014-06-22T01:43:55.914-06:00I typically have the opposite experience with dram...I typically have the opposite experience with dramas. Yes, I have sometimes been disappointed by dramas with lame endings, but I almost always find it a slog to get through the first few episodes of a drama. I am bored by the plot exposition, and I dislike how the female protagonist is often embarrassed and humiliated early on. It usually takes a few episodes until I really start to develop a connection to the characters, and become invested in their stories.bergenianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-68996451894380269962014-06-22T00:09:01.542-06:002014-06-22T00:09:01.542-06:00I really enjoyed this post! One of the major reaso...I really enjoyed this post! One of the major reasons I have like a million dramas forever on the backburner is just for all the reasons you've described. I think that Korean entertainment needs to stop chasing the dollars if they want more quality endings for dramas. While I know the live-shoot system is not completely to blame (travesty's like "Full House 2" that started funny and then went crazy soon after were filmed completely before airing), I think that the writers and producers and cable companies etc. need to work carefully to maintain a balance that will make for good television and something satisfying to all the viewers. Even "King of Dramas", which talked extensively about this, suffered from a weak ending. I also think that just some editing would help so much! Okay, I'll stop now with the crazy, long comment, but yeah...I have a million thoughts about this.dewaanifordramahttp://samsoondowntherabbithole.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-77439796396463006402014-06-21T22:39:26.061-06:002014-06-21T22:39:26.061-06:00I'd make a meaningful and long comment, but I ...I'd make a meaningful and long comment, but I am busy crying in the fetal position over the drama that knows who it is. <br /><br />I'd say the same about non-romantic shows. Like dangling the "she will survive" carrot, making that survival the entire point, then giving it. Then going "Gotcha!" and taking it away. You can probably guess which series I am talking about.<br /><br />I like a series which accepts its level. Those trying to be "poignant" and hide behind their fingers end up giving non-endings and never delivering on that carrot, thinking that's very meaning, such deep, wow. Stop trying to be "edgy" and close your damn stories. Close them by giving what was promised, promised with <i>full</i> knowledge the eventual fulfillment of it would keep your audience watching.Orionhttp://www.orionsramblings.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-21130147983740603772014-06-21T21:45:57.712-06:002014-06-21T21:45:57.712-06:00This is my biggest pet peeve with many dramas. I c...This is my biggest pet peeve with many dramas. I can put up with many silly plot twists as long as the story moves at a good pace and secrets don't stay secret for too long, but when there are all these secrets that no one wants to spill, and the pace is slower then a snail, it just makes me want to pull out my own teeth.<br /><br />I've been really impressed with You're All Surrounded so far in this respect. In every respect really, but especially in this one. Apart from the one big secret that overshadows the entire story and probably won't be revealed until the very end, none of the other secrets stay secret for very long. The writers have been really good about moving things along without losing the audience. Even the slowness of the romance hasn't bothered me too much, because everything else is being done so well. (I'm also just a sucker for stories where the guy falls first and has to suffer through a few episodes of the girl not noticing/acknowledging his feelings. It's always the girl who falls first and then gets thrown around like a rag doll by the guy for umpteen episodes. That just gets so old so fast.)Toriohttp://www.youtube.com/user/bugly1?feature=mheenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846709423440845137.post-86121215565211781602014-06-21T21:31:51.102-06:002014-06-21T21:31:51.102-06:00Ugh, yes. Mid-series hurdles are the worst.Ugh, yes. Mid-series hurdles are the worst.Toriohttp://www.youtube.com/user/bugly1?feature=mheenoreply@blogger.com